Monday, March 2, 2020

RP conversion stories and hidden mental illnesses

In researching some of the "Masterson group" of mental illnesses, I found a very interesting summary in Wikipedia:
In line with stressing the importance of maternal availability, Masterson argued that the personality disorders crucially involve the conflict between a person's two "selves": the false self, which the very young child constructs to please the mother, and the real self. The psychotherapy of personality disorders is an attempt to put people back in touch with their real selves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_F._Masterson 
This reminded me of many conference campgrounds where we heard testimonies and conversion experiences from RPs who had gone before. The stories would go something like this:
When I was in high school, I had two lives - at home and church I was obedient and godly, but at school and elsewhere, I swore, I hung out with the wrong crowd, I was mean to other students, I cheated on my homework [etc]. I finally came to the point where I needed to decide which me was me, and thanks to Jesus, I was able to decide to be obedient and godly.
Now, we were taught that this was a wonderful conversion experience. Someone had turned from their "[RP] messed up life" and had embraced Jesus and the gospel and had repented and turned back to the righteousness they were taught.

Unfortunately, I think this is more a story of pervasive mental illness. For those who grew up in the RP church, righteousness was about maintaining a perfect image. It was about keeping the outside of the cup clean. While we were taught that the image represented what was in our hearts, people were not concerned about what was in the heart; instead, external righteousness was all that mattered.

I've heard it described as "the wall" - RPs like to portray an impenetrable wall of exterior righteousness, while inside the wall is a person longing to be respected and loved. RP teaching rarely gets at the heart, except to say that whatever is inside "the wall" must be denied and hated so that the wall can be preserved. That is, a child is told that obedience must be "instant, unquestioned, and heartfelt." An RP adult is told the same thing about God and his ordained representatives - pastors and elders. Heartfelt meaning that a person's "real self" emotions are secondary to the authority's "false self" expectations of emotions. Thus, members in the RP church learn quickly that the church is not a safe place for their real self, leading to these behavioral disorders.

Let's look at this another way. As our children grow up, we can either focus on the internal or the external. If we focus on the internal, we are less concerned with the meltdowns and the blow-ups and the external behavior, because we are training tools to deal with the powerful emotions inside. We accept the positive and negative emotions and we help them understand and express those emotions through more and more positive means. If we focus on the external, we are more concerned with the meltdowns and blow-ups and the socially unacceptable behavior, but we are basically telling the children to "bottle up" their powerful emotions. We are telling them it is not okay to be angry, or sad or upset because those lead to unacceptable behaviors.

This can lead to certain behavioral disorders. Masterson studied disorders like Schizoid and Narcissist, which all have to do with the dichotomy between the "real" and "false" self, and I think, both of these types end up being attracted to or developed by the RP church

The Narcissist has a fragile real self, but a strong desire for validation, and seeks it by portraying perfection in the false self. The overt Narcissist does everything for recognition, cannot lose and cannot accept anything but 100% affirmation. The real self, however, is perpetually on the defensive from criticism. The covert Narcissist still wants perfection, but does so by being associated with the right people. They're on a first name basis (real or imagined) with all the top pastors in the denomination and are constantly bending over backwards to ingratiate themselves with those people. Narcissists, especially male Narcissists are going to find a solid home in the RP church. They can rise to church leadership by demonstrating their perfection, and then they receive the affirmation and support they crave by being part of the elite RPs. Especially since the RP church is small, there is more recognition and affirmation than being part of a large denomination or church. The size also helps covert narcissists because it is easier to be known and recognized by an RP celebrity pastor.

The Schizoid has a strong real self and a desire for connection, but finds connection dangerous and exhausting. The Schizoid has buried his emotions because emotions were never acceptable. Like the Narcissist, the Schizoid portrays a perfect false self, but not to get attention. Instead, the Schizoid wants an image of self-reliance. The RP church can encourage Schizoid behaviors by its reliance on rationalism and discouragement of emotions - as they seem more "Charismatic". Schizoids can be attracted to the RP church for the same reasons - the doctrine eschews emotions, the services are plain and dry, the preaching is cerebral.

In this sense, the "dual self" conversion stories represent people who believe they have jettisoned their unrighteous self in the name of Jesus, but have instead repressed that self. We pray that God works on that repressed self to remove the trauma and allow full self-expression, but I think we fear that the "real self" cannot be repressed so easily, and that becomes a significant danger to these people if the self is turned inwards (Schizoid), and to the church if the self is turned outwards (Narcissist).


27 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think you are on to something here. It seems much of this is related to how so much of NAPARC also views the Gospel itself. There has been a long ongoing debate within NAPARC as to the nature of the gospel. Is it Christ alone or is it Christ plus my good works hoops (external) I jump through. I am of the mind that the majority of NAPARC trajectory and indeed individual churches in general leans towards what is essentially a works righteousness and very neurotic position. A position that is a strong tie which binds and which gives more power to as well as shines the spotlight on institutions, Power offices therein and tribal comfort communities, rather than to Christ. The very neurotic constant push in teaching, counseling and preaching in some circles which is provoking people to be in never ending doubt, wondering if they’re “really” doing enough, doubting that they’re “really” working hard enough. Producing an orientation of ones life that fundamentally has a person over emphasizing their own works instead of resting in Christ. Not to mention also creating a great deal of spiritual pride. Jumping through hoops is for circus animals, not for God’s people.


“Peace I leave with you; My peace I give you. Not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your hearts be trouble, neither let them be afraid.” -John 14 :27

Anonymous said...

Sad but true that people spend most of their work weeks in corporate America jumping through hoops of what is said to validate them as a human being (The corporate America rat race) only to come to church on Sunday where they desperately (whether they know it or not) are in need of unconditional love and peace. They come to a supposed sanctuary (church) only to then be given a list of marching orders about how they’re not living up to certain things in their lives and if they don’t buck up and do better they’re going to be relegated to the back seat of the bus and only be a second class Christian. It creates these two classes of Christians. On the one hand the neurotic bruised reed’s and on the other the arrogant field spiritual pride warriors who are constantly walking around holding out their spiritual resume to everyone around them in their Christian circle.

Honestly, how pathetic! And this passes for acceptable norm in most Christian circles and churches! Come on people, is this really what the Christian life is supposed to be all about?

When ministers, leaders and church systems start acting like the “bureaucratic department of sanctification”— instead of like loving edifiers of God’s people, all manner of mess transpires. Narcissistic leaders such as the kind you’re speaking of love to make their flocked neurotic. In fact sadly for them this is the true sign of good sanctification, Christian maturity and growth.
Again I ask how does this square with what our true shepherd and Bishop of our souls says......
“Peace I leave with you; My peace I give you. Not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your hearts be trouble, neither let them be afraid.” -John 14 :27

BatteredRPSheep said...

What I remember hearing preached in RP sermons is that God cannot look on us unless we are being "covered" by Jesus, and then, God only sees Jesus's righteousness, not ours.

What is lost in this message is that GOD LOVES US! Somehow, the Reformed message is that we are detestable to God, but if we can cling on to Jesus's coattails we are able to get into Heaven by the skin of our teeth.

Then, I guess, we spend the rest of our lives trying to prove that we're worthy of clinging to Jesus's coattails.

Instead, the gospel is that God loves us - even "while we were yet sinners", our real selves, and not the masks, walls and images we portray. Jesus came willingly, out of that love, and not begrudgingly, to restore our broken relationship.

In that sense, we do not need to hide behind our walls, and a church that cannot recognize and love us for who we are, is not a "holy" church, but a church that does not reflect God. It is then, I think, unsurprising, that such a church would fall into the trap of making their god unapproachable, and measuring people by a demonic yardstick. Then we return to the Garden of Eden where Adam and Eve felt they had to hide their "real" selves from God behind a "false" leaf garment.

Anonymous said...

Yes true. Trusting in Christ righteousness Believing in the orthodox historic view of atonement and propitiation is one thing, but on the one hand the lack of assurance in ones faith and on the other other arrogance and total assurance in the sacerdotal work system of the institutional church definitely has a systemic ass backwardness to it. Sad but common in NAPARC.

Is it any surprise that people who choose to stay in that system, in those churches, are typically one of two people (99% of the time)......

1. The neurotic bruised person who is constantly on edge knowing they’re never doing enough and they’re on the precipice of destruction because they’re not good enough and they haven’t worked hard enough. (Often even this group invariably has a tinge of spiritual pride to because they firmly believe they’re in the right camp). Sadly often very sweet, but very compliant people with not much back bone yet. They make perfect fit soldiers for the narcissistic leader types.

2. The narcissistic leader types in that camp/group who think they have it all figured out and are filled with such spiritual pride you can see it coming from a mile away. They lead via the authoritarian and sacerdotal methods and procedures outlined in many blog posts at this site.

And there you have it. NAPARC is soooo very boring! There’s so very little nuance and diversity in thinking, mannerisms even, views, or charity in theology.

BatteredRPSheep said...

(2) is not so clear - yes, many have strong narcissistic tendencies, but in the RPCNA, narcissism can always be hidden behind the two hats. That is, it is okay for the narcissist to be self-deprecating and full of humility when wearing the "congregant" hat, but then flip the switch to full-on narcissist when wearing the "elder/pastor" hat.

Because our world is full of narcissism and works-based value, it is so difficult to recognize how out of character it is for church leaders to be legalists and narcissists.

I don't think it's as much a matter of backbone as it is simply what Darwin said, "Great is the power of steady misrepresentation."

BatteredRPSheep said...

I think the precipice of destruction / spiritual pride is a clever way to manage the cycle of abuse. The broken record says that "all who leave the RP church are headed for destruction" - that form of spiritual abuse makes people afraid to leave the flock. On the other hand, the broken record says that "the RP church is the best church" - so this is a form of "love bombing" in the sense that the church tries to make people feel good about themselves for being associated with RPs.

I've talked with a few people who are pinned up against one or the other message. Mostly it is, "I can't leave the RP church because of [X doctrinal position]", so it seems the spiritual pride is a more compelling sell than the fear of walking.

Anonymous said...

Very Good distinctions. Whether abuse via steady misrepresentation or by steady deluding of ones own self (I tend to think it is a large bit of both) it all adds up to a whole lot of Koolaid spoon fed serving by leaders and Koolaid self serve by people who proudly sit in their holy huddle. It’s just gross.

Anonymous said...

That said you are spot on as victims of this spiritual abuse which states that outside of our governing over you you have NO hope, is very much a deceitful way to hook people into staying. I pray more and more of these victims with have light shown to open their eyes. After all it’s 2020, not like they are going to get burned at the stake for leaving. I get it, the abusive pull on these victims is strong so I in no way want to discount that, I just hope that since it’s not 1600 (thank God) more will break free in coming decades. In fact I believe indeed that NAPARC as we no at will die in the next 25 years.

Anonymous said...

*NAPARC churches as we know it will die in the next 25 years*

BatteredRPSheep said...

My prayer is that NAPARC will see the errors of authoritarianism, repent and change. I grew up in the RP church and there are many wonderful but oppressed people I know there. "but if not" I hope that people recognize the abuse and leave.

Anonymous said...

Amen! Truly a better hope and prayer! No doubt that can happen, may it be so granted by the Lord. I really do not desire the worst for NAPARC, just my best logical forecast. The PCA will become more theologically and culturally liberal and the smaller more conservative denominations will continue to diminish massively in size and become more and more shall we say irrelevant. Either way I just do not believe (because I don’t find it biblical) that the over realized ecclesiology/ to high a view of the institutional church as we know it is what we should be as Christians so concerned about. In fact the level at which Christians depend on the institutional church, to the point where they make it an idol is part and parcel to the whole problem long been discussed at this blog site and many others.

The RP, NAPARC churches and most churches have just over the centuries put way too much stock & trade in their precious institutions and it’s high time they focused more on the spiritual side of what it means to be at church. They should embrace this fact........

“Whether or not the Western institutional church as we know it survives is of no ultimate consequence. What God has accomplished and will accomplish in Jesus Christ will always stand. His Church, in whatever form it takes, will stand with Him.”

As for me and my household we will not be hanging out in NAPARC waiting for the change, either direction it should go. To do so in my view would be willing making an idol out of a system or denomination, instead of trusting in Christ alone.
It’s why I am able to leave that system and denomination and have peace, assurance and joy. It is not institutional our faith, it is fundamentally spiritual. NAPARC and many churches in general have just lost this truth.
Let them build their empires, have their processes and their traditions, their power structures and precious offices of that power. Christ is good enough.

Anonymous said...

At ‘Gentle Reformation’ an RPCNA blog written by RP pastors and seminary profs in an effort to bend the knee to their idol of the institutional church, an RP pastor publish the Saturday before most churches were practicing social distancing, a blog post declaring that while sessions will decide whether to cancel camp meetings, conferences and the like we should never lose the nerve to cancel what is man’s ONLY HOPE, the church. Stating we should ourselves and anyone we can there..... ....... “Christians must hold their nerve at this time of 'Corona Crunch'. God's Church must be the very last place on earth, only as a very last resort, to lock up man's only hope, or have it's doors shut for fear of the Germs.””

Christ alone is our only hope! This is a false hope this arrogant man is proclaiming, not to mention endangering the community.

Mental Illness in the RPCNA? Yep, hoarding it one might say. But this is the kind of wacky thing cults and cultish leaders do. Right here in river city folks— NAPARC. And no one will take a hard stand against it. Glad handed at best is what we will see.

Don’t be fooled, trust in Christ alone for your eternal spiritual Salvation.

Anonymous said...

....stating we should drag ourselves and anyone we can there....

Anonymous said...

So glad to hear that the OH most benevolent Sessions will let us know whether they decide to cancel the up coming camp meeting, in home prayer group (because we all know your own individual or family prayers are not as efficacious) and conferences. I will wait like a good soldier and not think for myself. They make such good choices, like meeting in large groups on Sunday March 15, 2020. I’m sure they will knock this one right out of the park.

Shameful!! And nothing will be done of significance.

BatteredRPSheep said...

And... thankfully, they decided to follow state/national advice and mostly canceled. In retrospect, I think it would appear more like braggadocio and saber rattling. What is intriguing to me is that they can saber rattle one week and receive praise for saber rattling, and the very next week (I assume) "wisely" cancel or stream and receive praise for this complete reversal. That's how much the authoritarian bill of goods has been sold to the NAPARC minions.

Anonymous said...

On a day when most all other churches wisely cancelled, all of the RPCNA churches in our area met on 3/15/2020, even had evening service later in the day. 50 plus people gathered at 2 different locations.

Why? Well we know why. We can hear it plainly stated in the Gentle Reformation blog the view held by most RP leaders......these people (especially leaders) believe the church is the way by which ones ONLY hope lay. Not Christ the object of our faith, but rather the institution and the priestcraft therein is the way of Salvation. That is a false Gospel and it needs to be called such.

If I had to name one reason I left the RPCNA, this plainly demonstrates it. They simply have made an idol of their visible institutional church. They have embraced an over realized too high a view of the church and are indeed engaged in Sacerdotalism. This can and has led to all manner of problems, including abuse.

“I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another one , but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven (even a highly regarded pastor) should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you (Christ is our only Hope) , let him be accursed. ........Am I now seeking the approval of man or of God?””

Anonymous said...

....Galatians chapter 1

BatteredRPSheep said...

I tend to avoid reading Gentle Reformation. To me, it's in line with "the lady dost protest too much" sort of thinking I've seen in the RPCNA. For example, how many NAPARC churches are named "Grace", where the truth is quite the opposite?

And, to wit, "Let me give you a number of reasons for summoning self and dragging others to God's House." The thought of "dragging" is not remotely close to the concept of being gentle.

That said, the guidance in my area was gatherings of 250 or more. My church had an in-person service with about 80-100, but pretty good social distancing, plus a livestream. This week, the guidance has changed to 50+, which means they will almost certainly cancel the in-person service.

Also, as the author is a pastor in the UK, whose approach to the virus was initially let it run its course. UK has changed that at this point, recommending caution.

This brings me to another point... RP pastors refuse to call each other out when a message is inappropriate or ungracious. When Joel Beeke told the International Conference to starve their children if they refused to attend family worship, the panel of pastors refused to say anything negative about his message. I suspect the pastors on GR are similarly gritting their teeth on this one, because it's more important for them to have a "unified" authoritarian front than it is for them to call out sin in their elite group.

Anonymous said...

Have not read GR in over a year. But I was curious about how the RP would be handling the Covid 19 issues. Beyond the self serving, it is the blatant false “way of Salvation” presented. Let’s suppose hypothetically that no one can go to organized church for 6 months. In their unbiblical scheme and rationale of things the world’s hope and very eternal Salvation is on the precipice of destruction because one cannot enter the doors of a building and engage in their controlled priestcraft.

Folks, this is Protestantism 101.

After all when it comes to “the Church”, Historically as Protestants it has always been the accepted position.......”Christians are members of the universal body of Christ not because of identification with the institution of the Church, but through identification with Christ directly through faith.” Indeed this is the biblical position >> Rom 12:5, 1 Tim 2:5, 1Cor 12:12-27, Eph 3:6, Eph 5:23, Col 1:18.

And yet all this “the church is your only hope” from a supposed Protestant denomination. Disgraceful.

BatteredRPSheep said...

Reminds me of a great blog post this week:
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Some of the criticism comes out of the culture of comparison. In order to avoid having others put me down, I criticize you and put the focus on you. By pointing out the behavior of others’ kids, or financial irresponsibility, or lack of church service, I direct attention away from my own failings in those and other areas. The only way to win the comparison game is to find others worse than you.

But I think there is more to it than this. Some people seem to think that calling attention to the sins of others shows God that they believe. They hope for some spiritual points from Him for doing right.

The example is too familiar. Pastor X has a moral problem. He lusts after women and enjoys porn. Of course, this brings him down in the sight of God, he thinks. Since he lives and works in a performance system, he knows that he is not measuring up. What can he do? He can redouble his criticisms of others. He can scold the women of the church for the way they dress. He can rail against sex on television and movies. He can scold the men for lustful thoughts. He can warn the young people against compromise. He can teach people about God’s expectations in marriage. His options are many.

Now, all these “good works” don’t overcome the evil of Pastor X’s heart, but they make him feel like he is moving in that direction. If God weighs him in the balance, the criticisms and scoldings should help offset his own sin. This is the performance system at work.
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The Gentle Reformation article seems to come out of a desire to compare and criticize other uncommitted churches for stepping back from the means of grace during this difficult time. It suggests that the pastor feels like he/his church is not trying hard enough (legalism) so he sets a bar (attendance) that his church can meet and prove themselves superior.

I find it fascinating that Jesus's teaching is so contrary to this. Yes, we serve God first and foremost, but Jesus says, "Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath". He says, "leave your gift at the altar and be reconciled with your brother".

The OPC was born out of a rejection of the social gospel, which theologically was a correct stance, but the rejection left them in a place of legalistic obedience and lack of care for the brethren. This is exactly what we expect in this tradition. Our care for our brethren by choosing to not spread the virus and overload the healthcare system is considered secondary to legalistic obedience.

Anonymous said...

Ding Ding Ding!!! Well said, spot on and so true!

Anonymous said...

“Keeping the Sabbath” is to cease from your own works and rest in Christ. Jesus is our Sabbath, not a day of the week. The Sabbath is about a resurrected person, not a 24-hour period of abstaining from this or that. Further more what are these people going to do if they are kept from their idol (The institutional church) for 6 months to a year? Theoretically what if it’s another year before we can gather in larger groups?

Well, by their (RPCNA & NAPARC) own deeply misguided belief they are doomed. We all are doomed. Which is why they want us to “drag people to church if we have to”.

Groups, individuals or even organizations claiming to be a church who primarily uplift institutional identity and institutional fidelity as a chief value for all its members, instead of primarily uplifting Christ, are engaged in Churchianity more than they are Christianity.

“”Whether or not the western institutional church as we know it survives is of no ultimate consequence. What God has accomplished and will accomplish in Jesus Christ will always stand. His church, in whatever form it takes, will stand with Him”

Your prayers at home, your Bible reading, sharing with your neighbor , etc......you are the church right where you are.

What a freeing, peaceful and better place to put the orientation of our lives, in Christ where it belongs.
Do not be fooled dear Christians, do not put your hope in the institutional church. It is a false hope. Repent of your idols, trust in Christ alone.

Anonymous said...

Not in any way attempting to be overly judgmental as so many of the authoritarian leaders this blog rightly calls out, however may I suggest that it is very possible that the biggest thing the COVID 19 crisis is showing is indeed the need to repent of the absolute idol that has been made of the traditional institutional church.

Anonymous said...

I do view them as making a sort of "golden calf", in that they say it's Christ they are upholding in worship, but it really seems as though they turn His gospel into license for self-promotion of their institution and leaders.

BatteredRPSheep said...

An RP church I attended took the "liturgical" approach to worship and the pastor started differentiating between preaching and presiding, and then elevated both to the point that one of the more conscientious elders I knew mentioned that he was afraid of being asked to even preside (announce the order of the service and pray publicly) because it was such a weighty burden.

The dilemma of the legalistic elder is two-fold. The downside of being a legalistic leader is the overwhelming sense of unworthiness that is cultivated in legalistic churches. The love and grace of God are theoretical and distant concepts, but holiness and judgment are ever-present. Because the RP God does not evidence love and grace, then the leadership solves the dilemma for themselves by requiring that love and grace from the congregation. But, the dilemma is not solved for the ordinary members and really not solved for the leadership.

Anonymous said...

Jesus told us that His burden is light, that He is gentle, lowly, and kind. The instructions for choosing leaders reflect these standards, but, in the church those standards are not followed. Pedigree, education, success in business, talent in speaking (just talk, not action), right connections, and external appeal are placed at the forefront.

Anonymous said...

Leaders can say in an email "Rest assured, dear flock. Your session is discussing these matters." (which I read in a sepulchral voice) Oh, such comfort! Nothing can ever be really bad if my glorious Session is Discussing it!