Hopefully this is the final post on the complaint:
9. Passing judgment without knowledge
Ultimately, however, Synod rendered judgment on these complaints without first satisfying the request to be apprised of the charges upon which it was ruling. In conversation with various presbyters after Synod, a recurring theme was trust: Men voted on the basis of whether they had greater faith in the complainant or the men of the SJC or simply the process itself.
Let's dissect this. The authors came to the conclusion that "Synod rendered judgment" based on "conversation with various presbyters". In other words, the authors talked with some subset of the presbyters of Synod and were confirmed in their theory. Did they determine a proper sample size? Did they come up with a scientifically valid survey that would not skew results? If they did, I'm sure the results and statistical analysis would be in the complaint. They almost certainly didn't, but yet, based on their own opinions and confirmation bias, they came to a conclusion without sufficient evidence. They "pass[ed] judgment without knowledge", in the very part of their paper claiming that presbyters have an obligation to fully vet any accusation, they chose to state their subjective opinion as objective truth.
Synod's typical approach of appointing a commission doesn't work, since that's exactly what they did, and I would guess that this is quite similar to the case with Bruce Hemphill. Synod was convinced that overall, justice was done, and that the various complaints about whether policies and procedures were followed didn't really matter to them. Synod gets to do that. They have the rubber band clause that “Under extraordinary circumstances, extraordinary things may be done.”(DCG 8:1) The IRPC matter certainly falls into the category of being extraordinary!
Final Thoughts:
7. So far as you can know in your own heart, is it the call of Christ, the glory of God and the welfare of the church, and not any selfish object, that moves you to undertake this sacred office?
8. That you may perform faithfully all the duties of the office to which you have been called, do you engage to seek the guidance of the Holy Spirit? Do you promise, in His strength, to live a holy and exemplary life, to study and promote the purity, peace, unity and progress of the church
9. Do you promise subjection in the Lord to the courts of this church, and engage to follow no divisive courses from the doctrine and order which the church has solemnly recognized and adopted; and do you promise to submit to all the brotherly counsel which your brethren may tender you in the Lord?
And their membership vows:
3. Do you repent of your sin; confess your guilt and helplessness as a sinner against God; profess Jesus Christ, Son of God, as your Savior and Lord; and dedicate yourself to His service: Do you promise that you will endeavor to forsake all sin, and to conform your life to His teaching and example?
13 comments:
The RPCNA is well known for passing judgment without knowledge. I've been debating a while now about sharing on this, but it will involve revealing some methods we've used. I'm not sure how that works if some of them are unlawful according to society (we justify it under the Kingship of Christ, and this is key in why we push this doctrine). I don't agree with many of your positions on this blog, but I'll contribute where I do agree. I'll be getting some legal advice soon on my ability to share. If anyone has any information or experience on the legality of sharing information from the RPCNA, I'm definitely seeking information on this. I'd be interested in learning the legalities of sharing what is happening on the inside from the perspective of a member and non-member (former member). There's always anonymity but this issue is delicate. My conscience is troubled about things members aren't being told, and things potential members aren't being told.
Don't feel any pressure to share on my account. My goal is to bring healing to myself and others, not to goad people into sharing their stories. Those of us who have left know that the RPCNA is toxic and abusive, and there is plenty of public information out there to show exactly that without anyone exposing themselves to personal attacks.
That said, most states have "anti-SLAPP" legislation. You can research the statutes in your state, but in most states, it protects blog owners and commenters from legal harassment by defamation lawsuits. Julie Anne of Spiritual Sounding Board (I think Oregon) won a $500k lawsuit against her former pastor who sued her for defamation.
The legal definition of libel/slander/defamation (which RPCNA pastors rail against) has two prongs.
1) The offender must know that the statements are false. Saying what you believe to be true is never defamation.
2) The offender must know that making the statements will cause harm to the victim.
So, if you look at the Fox News / Dominion defamation lawsuit, Dominion had internal Fox News e-mails saying that they knew the accusations against Dominion were false, yet they aired the stories (knowing they would harm Dominion's reputation) because it would increase their ratings. Fox quickly settled that out of court, for obvious reasons.
My take on this for my blog is:
1) I am not going to knowingly say false things on my blog; however, church documents leave out a lot of details, so I have to make assumptions based on what information is available.
2) I'm happy to discuss and even retract stuff when called out on it, but I'm not going to retract something just because someone asserts that I'm wrong without any evidence to back it up.
There is no feeling of pressure. It’s an issue of conscience, and with that an obligation. I used to think that saving myself was the most important thing, and it was okay to be the only thing as long as I didn’t hurt anyone else. But I see the folly in that now, and it troubles me. What about all of the other people? It’s like jumping from a moving train when I know the track is to run out at some point in the distance, but not telling anyone this information so they at least have the knowledge to make the choice.
When I left, it was pretty clear to me that I had been abused, and that my church was abusive. Because I was still angry and processing the abuse, I made the huge mistake of venting to my family and friends, many of whom were still members.
After hearing what I had to say, absolutely zero of them came to the conclusion that the church was toxic or abusive. The conclusion they did come to was that it was best to avoid the angry ex-RP. I don't know if they would have remained my friends if I had a counselor or some non-RP friend to vent to, but what's done is done.
If you want to tell your story because it's therapeutic and healing to you, I encourage you to do that. If you want to tell your story because you think some RPCNA faithful is going to read it and conclude that the RPCNA is abusive. I think it's going to fall on deaf ears. I survived a few decades of abuse before (IMO) the Holy Spirit hinted to me that I was being abused and it was hurting me. It was only then that I started looking for resources to explain what I was seeing.
If your goal is to get the truth out, I would commend and encourage you, since people both inside and outside the RPCNA need to hear it, and no Christian or church should ever fear the truth*. However, if you're concerned with protecting your identity, perhaps this is not the place to do it, since I would imagine that server logs can be subpoenaed. Instead, a more traditional news outlet with a history of protecting their sources might be more appropriate. Given the subject matter, perhaps Ruth Graham at the New York Times, or maybe Christianity Today would be interested.
* Gossip can be true, and should be guarded against because of the motives involved, not the subject matter.
My wife and I came up with a good working definition of gossip. "Gossip is telling someone else's story without permission." If something is not true, it's better defined as slander.
The problem with the "gossip = motive" argument is that the church can then tone police victims and damage control. Yes, the pastor raped you and the church courts did nothing, but it's gossip for you to tell anyone.
When we don't have a clear definition of gossip, gossip becomes "anything the powerful want covered up." So, in the case of Ben Manring, it was 'gossip' for him to bring to the attention of the congregation the fact that one of their leaders-elect had co-signed a complaint against Synod's handling of IRPC.
Other definitions generally become evil. Was it evil for the Holy Spirit to preserve David's private sin with Bathsheba in perpetuity? Was it evil for the Holy Spirit to preserve Peter's denial of Jesus even after he was forgiven? If all of this truth is going to come out anyway, why is it a Christian mandate to hide it?
My take on anonymous's concern is not anonymity, but whether their story could be the subject of a lawsuit. Unfortunately, no matter how strong legal protections (defamation and anti-SLAPP) are, people can still sue others for frivolous means. That's what anti-SLAPP legislation is for. In states with strong anti-SLAPP laws, a lawsuit cannot be filed without sufficient proof, and the filer can be countersued for legal fees and damages if they do not prove their case. We needed these protections to keep deep-pocketed organizations from silencing dissenters.
I was trying to hedge the statement about the truth being generally good to make known with a warning that there are circumstances where telling the truth is immoral, but I messed that up by not thinking about it carefully. I yield to someone who has clearly thought about it more and better.
I appreciate both of your input. Disclosing on here was never the plan.
Gossip does involve motive, but isn’t limited to this. As for definitions, I’d cling to the scriptures. Sharing someone’s story without permission is definitely gossip, but gossip is more than that. Even with motives, this area gets tricky because our hearts are easily deceived and we can misjudge our own motives. I have done this and I know every human continually faces this risk. Our motives are alive in all we do, and we can be in the dark in their regard for a long time before we face them. For some, this time never comes. No one is more adept at lying to anyone as their own person. In the RPCNA, there is almost no one who is not in this boat.
As for my intent, I’ve been clear it was to reveal what is harming others, but because others are the goal to help, all things must be considered- including if anyone else is to be involved. There are some outlets who may jump at a story, but if there is anything in their history or way that suggests they have it in for the church or certain groups with certain doctrines, they will be avoided. This is another layer so difficult to this: the ones most likely to give a sounding board are also the ones I would never trust, as I don’t believe their histories suggest they are interested solely in helping others. We have 2 Dustin t agendas working here: Satan is after the Church, and unbelievers (including those who identify as Christian but are not) are after the Church. I appeal to God alone at this time, the only one from whom I can say my help truly comes. Seeing people set free of one thing must be coupled with an idea as to where they might go after. Will some, if they wake up, turn away from God? Will they turn to another false doctrine? What will the fallout be in their personal lives? Ideally there needs to be an a support system in place, and in my experience I have noted that ‘support systems’ that help people escape other groups are only geared in getting them out, but they aren’t concerned with what is coming after they leave. This all needs prayer. There is more than one way to expose evil to the light, and in today’s Age, it’s time we explored how to best see people set free.
As for this blogger, I don’t know your identity. I note you are anonymous too, but I’m confused about this. It seems this blog has been in existence for a long time. And there’s a lot of information here that would make it easy to identify you in such a small denomination with a small amount of defectors. Either the denomination knows who you are, or you have disguised your identify in the details you give of yourself in this blog. In either case, and coupled with the knowledge you have a spouse (who may be privy to what is disclosed), I am confused how anonymity is even a reality. If you grew up in this denomination, as many of us have, you likely have family still stuck or attached, and that can make for a conflict of interest. I do wish you well in your healing, and all of you here. I hope to join the effort soon, albeit in another fashion, to help others find freedom and healing. Until then, may the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ go with you.
You seem a good and wise man desiring to love God and His people. I wish there were more of you. I want to say, “Go, do all that is in your heart, for the Lord is with you.” (2 Samuel 7:3)
I will hold on to this scripture and keep it before me, until it pleases the Lord to permit me the courage, and the faith, to realize it. Oh, the faith! 🙏
The denomination is small enough that someone could probably put it all together if they worked hard enough at it, but I don't think enough people read it, and it's not so much for my protection as it is for others. So, if my identity comes out, I'm not too worried.
One could argue that it suits the RPCNA's purposes better for me to be anonymous, because they (and do) claim that remaining anonymous is somehow evil and that someone who has something 'valuable' to say wouldn't hide behind anonymity.
If my identity does come out, it just opens the doors for the RP leaders to 'pass judgment without knowledge' as you saw Odom do - he suggested that if I revealed my identity he'd certainly be able to find sins to charge against me.
Tell this to the elder who ghost writes.
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